Larry Siegle: How being bound by Historical Shadows Misses The Heart

Jesus said "unless you bear my cross, you cannot be my disciple. Mr. Siegle you are missing my point on the important of the cross. Jesus DID in fact die on the cross. My point is that discipleship is about taking up our cross and following Christ. This "bearing of the cross" which is commanded to be a disciple, is not a historical even but is in fact shadowed by it. When did you die to your old man? When were you born again and become new. This is the real fulfillment which Jesus commanded to those who would come after him? How is this process which you yourself became apart of tied to historical bounds as if those historical chains are what removed you sin, or brought life to your unborn soul. Did 30ad or 70ad bring you into God presence, though you yourself had not even been born? How so? If the old things are some how removed historically by the historical event itself, what need is there to be born again? Since the OLD things are no longer present? Preterists continue to assert that historical shadows are capable of removing the old things instead of the revealing of the removal of old things which can only be found in Christ. This is Universalism.

Larry Siegle "It is a hermeneutical mistake to look for Christ outside the bounds of historical fulfillment." The Divine use of time is a vital part of the redemptive purposes of God. Jesus came “in the fullness of the time” (Gal. 4:4). It was the purpose of God to operate inside the stream of space and time. The Cross was a historical moment in time. Given the “Idealist” hermeneutic one might conclude that the significance of the Cross as an actual occurrence was not really important–just the spiritual meaning of it. (NOT SO, The Idealist position is that the Cross is a Shadow of Our Death and Dying to the Flesh. So the Cross as a picture, of Christ in us, could not be more important) The same principle would also apply to other aspects of the redemptive plan of God such as the coming of the Lord, the resurrection of the dead and the judgment. The event is diminished in favor of the meaning of the event when in reality both are significant from a biblical standpoint.


http://preterist.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/preterist-spirituality-is-preterist-idealism-the-answer/