Kurt Simmons "It is disappointing to me that Preterism is being divided between two equally untenable views: The "corporate body" view and this new "literal rapture" view.
The corporate body view is frivolous because it fails to distinguish between regeneration and resurrection. The eschatological resurrection was Hadean, plain and simple; souls were take from Hades to Heaven. See Revelation 20:11-15. No corporate body view here! The living underwent a covenantal 'change' in which they received the long awaited atonement and remission of sins, but this is regeneration, not resurrection.
The literal rapture view overlooks the fact that I Thess. 4 never says the saints alive at the eschatological resurrection would be caught up AT THAT TIME to meet the Lord in the air. That is the critical issue. The more defensible view is that they were caught later, at the time of their own physical death and not before. II Cor. 5 makes this very plain when it says "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord." When were they caught up? When they absented their physical bodies at death. Simple!"
"We walk by faith, not by sight. It is only when we put off the body in death that we are in the visible presence of God in heaven, not before."
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