Preterist Heresy: Larry Siegle: The Apostles were Futurists until 70 AD?

Larry Siegle: The Apostles were Futurists until 70 AD?

Here we have a new dualistic eschatology model presented by Larry Siegle. Larry says the apostles were futurists before 70AD and preterists afterward. This kinda fits with the rest of the horizontal dualistic thinking that leads so many to Universalism, a consequence of placing ALL in the New. Larry's logic is that 70AD changes everything. The destruction of Jerusalem changes everything. Like saying this present age is for those living before 70 AD, and the age to come is for those living after 70 AD. Especially when one is "found worthy" to enter into that age. As if those outside of Christ are WORTHY, to live after 70AD. Or maybe how Preterist define the present heavens and earth as that pre-70AD period, and the new heavens and earth as a post 70AD period. Forgeting that 2 Pet. 3:13 does not say" where unrighteousness dwells". And yet by making a horizontal line, Preterists are forced to conclude unrighteous is included in the Hew Heavens and Earth.

The truth is the bible presents consistantly a verticle dualistic model that is outside the scope of past/future. This model has more to do with inclusion/seperation from Christ rather than which historical period of time you live in. It is about moving from one realm from below to a higher realm above. Not becuase it was your birthday and afterwards you got a new car. Righteousness is NOT Preterism, and inheriting God's promises is not something ALL recieve in a historical year.

Larry Siegle "The apostles were FUTURISTS, but only until the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70."

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Saying you are a Berean because you are a Preterist does not make you one. A Berean is not someone who has arrived, but one who continues searching and testing all things. You will never be a Berean if you refuse to consider or listen to opposing views, scoff at all criticisms, OR swallow every new doctrine that fits your theory. Preterism is NOT the destination but a road sign among many that you will see along the way. The real destination is Jesus Christ! If you are searching for him, LOOK UP, beyond the shadows and patterns to him who is and who was and who is to come. He is coming in the clouds, and will draw his own to his side, just as he promised.

The finish line of eschatology represents a transition from realms below to realms above (Vertical eschatology). The finish line NEVER represents a transition from one historical year to another (Horizontal Eschatology, ie. Hyper-Preterism).

(2 Timothy 2:14-18) But avoid worldly and empty chatter, for it will lead to FURTHER UNGODLINESS, and their talk will spread LIKE GANGRENE. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, men who have GONE ASTRAY from the truth SAYING THAT THE RESURRECTION HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE, and they UPSET the faith of some.

(1 Corinthians 15:46-50) Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

(Jeremiah 1:9-10) Then the LORD put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth. See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.

(2 Peter 1:19-21 - 2 Peter 2:10) So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter; and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men (for by what he saw and heard that righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds), then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment, and especially those who indulge the flesh in its corrupt desires and despise authority. Daring, self-willed, they do not tremble when they revile angelic majesties,